Pragmatic AI with Matt Stauffer

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In this episode, Matt Stauffer sits down with Tom Crary, President and COO of Laravel, for a rare look at AI on the business side of a fast-growing, PE-backed company — not the coding side everyone talks about.

Tom walks through how his team leads with security and trust (including a custom data agreement and a hard line around financial systems), then puts AI to work everywhere else: board decks that dropped from 30 hours to under 8 to create, contract review that cut outside legal spend by 70%, and non-developers shipping their own internal apps. He's candid about the failures too — a comp-plan math error that slipped past every human reviewer — and about runaway token spend and why he refuses to make a leaderboard out of it.

The conversation closes with an unexpected turn into AI-assisted biohacking, where Tom feeds genome data, blood work, and wearables into structured data to work around the context window — and a speed round on where all of this is actually headed.

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